Comments on: Last opportunity to be a OSF pioneer of the Internet. Streaming Media Servers. http://www.crafted.com.au/blog/2007/09/24/last-opportunity-to-be-a-osf-pioneer-of-the-internet-streaming-server/ JamieG looks deep into the ramifications of current trends in Technology and Media Sat, 28 Aug 2010 18:56:21 +1000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: hinder » Last opportunity to be a OSF pioneer of the Internet. Streaming … http://www.crafted.com.au/blog/2007/09/24/last-opportunity-to-be-a-osf-pioneer-of-the-internet-streaming-server/comment-page-1/#comment-820 hinder » Last opportunity to be a OSF pioneer of the Internet. Streaming … Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:22:34 +0000 http://www.crafted.com.au/blog/2007/09/24/last-opportunity-to-be-a-osf-pioneer-of-the-internet-streaming-server/#comment-820 [...] Read the rest of this great post here [...] [...] Read the rest of this great post here [...]

]]> By: jamieg http://www.crafted.com.au/blog/2007/09/24/last-opportunity-to-be-a-osf-pioneer-of-the-internet-streaming-server/comment-page-1/#comment-674 jamieg Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:16:48 +0000 http://www.crafted.com.au/blog/2007/09/24/last-opportunity-to-be-a-osf-pioneer-of-the-internet-streaming-server/#comment-674 Philip, I am surprised that you appear to not understand the need for streaming. I will admit that forward storage with most likely no DRM is most likely the bulk of our digital future. However, other business models will exist that may work well under streaming and with some kind of content management. Imagine if DL.TV or similar could offer a streaming service to any web browser and could pretty much enforce it and therefore garentee the number/stats for the advertiser. Imagine the niche content producer making content he will only release on a secure, inexpensive streaming link. Makes it harder to pirate, and as the infrastructure is inexpensive, can sell it so cheap that its not worth pirating. This would encourage the ods for him to make a return or a better return on his work. And finally, your vision of the future in which people subscribe to RSS feeds of content. This still does not answer the bigger issue of how to cross promote. How do people surf around and see what other sites are serving up on the Video RSS feeds. Sure, progressive download does a reasonable job. "REASONABLE" being the operative word here. Streaming would do it better and has many other advantages. At the end of the day Phil. I fully believe in your vision, I am just at odds on how we are going to get there. I feel that features like streaming are part of this. And a security layer is bound to come with it. And like it or not, will make other niche business models possible. James Philip,
I am surprised that you appear to not understand the need for streaming. I will admit that forward storage with most likely no DRM is most likely the bulk of our digital future.
However, other business models will exist that may work well under streaming and with some kind of content management.
Imagine if DL.TV or similar could offer a streaming service to any web browser and could pretty much enforce it and therefore garentee the number/stats for the advertiser.

Imagine the niche content producer making content he will only release on a secure, inexpensive streaming link. Makes it harder to pirate, and as the infrastructure is inexpensive, can sell it so cheap that its not worth pirating. This would encourage the ods for him to make a return or a better return on his work.

And finally, your vision of the future in which people subscribe to RSS feeds of content. This still does not answer the bigger issue of how to cross promote. How do people surf around and see what other sites are serving up on the Video RSS feeds. Sure, progressive download does a reasonable job. “REASONABLE” being the operative word here. Streaming would do it better and has many other advantages.

At the end of the day Phil. I fully believe in your vision, I am just at odds on how we are going to get there. I feel that features like streaming are part of this. And a security layer is bound to come with it. And like it or not, will make other niche business models possible.

James

]]> By: Philip Hodgetts http://www.crafted.com.au/blog/2007/09/24/last-opportunity-to-be-a-osf-pioneer-of-the-internet-streaming-server/comment-page-1/#comment-670 Philip Hodgetts Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:36:55 +0000 http://www.crafted.com.au/blog/2007/09/24/last-opportunity-to-be-a-osf-pioneer-of-the-internet-streaming-server/#comment-670 Who needs a streaming server? That would imply that "Television" needed to be live, and on the Internet it most definitely does not need to be live. It just needs to be delivered before I want to watch it. Playing h.264 into the Flash player doesn't require the Flash Media Server as long as you don't need DRM or RTSP. http download works fine now to Flash player and to QT player. (youTube et al are progressive download of H.263/Spark content to Flash Player, Apple's Trailers are all progressive download H.264/mp4. Cheers Philip Who needs a streaming server? That would imply that “Television” needed to be live, and on the Internet it most definitely does not need to be live. It just needs to be delivered before I want to watch it.

Playing h.264 into the Flash player doesn’t require the Flash Media Server as long as you don’t need DRM or RTSP. http download works fine now to Flash player and to QT player. (youTube et al are progressive download of H.263/Spark content to Flash Player, Apple’s Trailers are all progressive download H.264/mp4.

Cheers

Philip

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