I refuse to even THINK of ever shooting in ‘Red’ if ever given the opportunity. I also refuse to ever kiss Jim Jannard’s asshole like the Red Followers’ do in the forums..

Get real.

True.

Red is the best production ready camera available now for its budget range. This includes usability, modularity and quality. You can argue all the final details you want but no Sony, Canon or whatever comes even close. It would be good if these other companies could use their technical expertise and advanced knowledge centers to produce better cameras. In fact the competition is well welcomed. Unfortunately these large companies are still interested in the lazy way of limiting the market. Meanwhile red Cam co. keep inovating.

We heard all the nervous nellies such as yourself say that the red wasn’t achievable but Red went ahaed and created a first gen system that blows everything out of the water in its budget range.

Now, We are looking at second gen; the epic and scarlet. Red will improve 10 fold and their roadmap shows amazing progress.

I hate the cult following of Red as well but cannot doubt this camera system is brilliant.

At thee end of the day, the public want an image and pay a certain price which the producer has to engage with which in turn runs the industry.

So I for one am glad there are a lot on this industry who are not following this trend because they are slowly being weeded through economic forces and that leaves opening for those of us that are progressive.

Secondly,

The industry has become a Kool-Aid drinking cult !
What they call 2K is in fact 1K what they call
4K DI is in fact 2K.
They even refer to Blu-Ray as 2K !!
We all know BD is 1080 that is only 80 lines
about 1K.
Now if you loaned $2000 to a friend and then
they came to repay you with $1080 telling you
that 80 bucks above one grand is the same as two grand would you buy that ??
But that is the logic of the K rez cult !!
The terms I now use are
scientific / Hype
so I would describe so-called 2K Digital Intermediate as
1K scientific/2K Hype

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Until you actually go out and use the thing in real world situations instead of just relaying stories you’ve heard you’re argument is as useful as that film scanner you were going to build.

Bear in mind that no one is doing what RED are attempting. It’s early days for what looks like a revolution in affordability and insane resolution options. If you don’t like it, fine…. but stop bitching about something you have limited or second hand knowledge of. It’s just poor form.

The price of the kit, to them, is not an issue. not something that effects them. It is the files and the workflow that effects them. The fact is, the RED workflow does work, but as a pro, it is not as ideal as some work flows based on the expensive kit..

I am sorry you consider me ignorant to point this out.

The RED, for what it is, band for buck, leads the industry. It explains why it is selling so well and is being used on countless productions.

But like anything, it has its issues. As a Pro, you should understand the strengths and weaknesses of your tools as to be able to utilise them as best they can.

James

James, if you understood just how many tv shows, movies, commercials, music videos and other projects have already been shot and continue to be shot with RED cameras your head would probably explode. Guys like you are welcome to continue flinging your shoes into the printing press trying to stop it’s dangerous magic. The rest of us will just keep turning the page though…

2. Leaving it in bayer makes the files smaller. Even still, it must be a compressed form of bayer as that would need more bandwidth what I understand to be the bitrate. Leaving it in bayer has some fractional advantages I imagine, but I have not really had time to bring it into an online edit quite to play with. When my partner was at Park Road Post, talking to the post guys behind the Peter Jackson film. There biggest issues was the lack of colour depth compared to what they are use to with uncompressed 10bit.

3. If your not doing 4 K, your doing 2K. So, as the RED is not a real 4K camera, its only really as good as any 2k camera, as that is what you will ultimately work in. It does give you some room for cropping the 4K to a 2K result. But thats about all the advantage you really have.

4. any addition to complexity, even for trained staff, also introducers more possibilities for things to go wrong. Law of averages.

5. Philip, (Who would know) maintained above an audio issue.. And I have not heard and cannot see the once HDSDI option listed on the site for available accessories. I would be happy if you could point out where it says this option IS available. From my understanding it can output preview of HDSDI 4:2:2 most likely 10bit (Single link). But duel link 1080/2K 4:4:4 10/12 bit has never been supplied as quoted in the original promise.

Finally, the 5D MkII, is as it stands, a better camera compared to the original and new low cost scarlet. (3k bayer sensor compared to a 22mega pixel interpolated down to 1080). Canon is a better result and cheaper as a complete package. So it may not have the vaporware accessory factor but it is a current product and not 1 year away (prototype). The codec in the RED is likely to be superior to what the 5D can currently offer.

The 3D rig RED has shown is not new. I have seen prototypes exactly like it based on sensors from general sensor makers. And that would have been 3-5 years ago. I’m sorry mate, but please come down to earth. There is also a lot of other issues in making 3D cameras that the RED rig does not even cater for in its prototype..

James